Precision Wellbeing

Fantastic experience: I came to Ashley with severe shin splints—so bad that I couldn’t walk without crutches for several months. The pain and inflammation were constant, and I was really struggling not just physically, but mentally as well. My shin muscles were weak, and I felt stuck in a cycle of pain and frustration. Throughout our online sessions Ashley’s approach was very competent and reassuring. He not only helped me get out of pain through targeted exercises, but each session he also gave me the confidence that recovery was possible and gave me mental strength. So what stood out most to me was how empowering the process felt—he made it clear that with consistent effort, I could heal and regain my strength. Thanks to Ashley, I’m now on track to walking again. I can recommend him wholeheartedly!

Fantastic experience: I am a huge fan of Ash! Ash was recommended to me as the man that could assist with my neck, shoulder and back pains. Over a period of treatments Ash literally massaged the pain away. I walk and sleep better than I have in years. I now book a monthly appointment to see Ash to help keep those niggling pains at bay and honestly I cannot recommend Ash highly enough. The information that Ash passes on how to better prevent injuries is a real eye opener especially the little routines that you can incorporate into your normal daily life to keep yourself fitter and healthier. Thanks Ash! GG

Fantastic experience: I came across Ashley on YouTube after searching ‘how to fix my back pain’ which kept reoccurring. I had tried several other health care practitioners including physios and chiropractor prior to finding. Ashley, all of whom helped to an extent to reduce my pain but ultimately failed, as I kept re-injuring myself. As a very active individual I this massively impacted my mental health as I thought that my back would never get better. However Ashley provided a great stepwise approach to Improving my back pain and has not only helped to completely eradicate my back pain but helped me to become stronger than I was before by identifying areas of imbalance and weakness. As well as fixing my back pain, he also provided amazing continuous support throughout. He encouraged me to drop him a text whenever I had any questions or pain during my recovery. It was great to know his expertise were so easily accessible. I would definitely recommend Ashley and will be using his services again in the future if ever needed!

Fantastic experience: Ashley is not only the most competent osteopath but also a delightful person which is a great byline to the treatment one is undergoimg. He goes out of his way to be helpful - explain what is going on in the body and using his expertise to treat it. I unhesitatingly recommend him..

Negative experience: Only seems to be good if you have had a sports injury. If you're going for any advanced posture related issues such as a twisted pelvis causing all sorts of other issues up the chain, then its a complete waste of money and they don't seem to be that advanced to figure those type of things out. Also, they failed to check my feet, which was probably one of the most important things for my issues as I have flat feet.

Fantastic experience: My initial session With Luke was very positive and relaxing. He is understanding and professional in his approach. I’m looking forward to continuing treatment towards a healthy and pain free neck

Fantastic experience: At my first session today Luke was extremely attentive and professional. I felt “heard” and that he was really taking his time to make sure he had done a thorough assessment. The actual treatment was relaxing and I felt much more clear headed after it. I’m feeling very positive about working with him towards my own healing and strength. Many thanks.

Fantastic experience: Ashley is so sympathitic and listen to the customer's voice well, then gives guidance what we need. H ighly recommend.

Fantastic experience: Ashley was incredibly friendly, professional and knowledgable when helping with my shoulder issues. He relieved some of my tension with massage and showed me how to do the same by myself. He also gave me postural/strength building tips when working out. High recommended!

Fantastic experience: I went to see a chiropractor, physio and another osteopath before going to see Ashley and I wish I had found him sooner. His understanding of the mechanics of the body is fantastic and the advice he provides to get you up and moving again is priceless. Never felt rushed off the table either. I had about 6/7 sessions with him and he worked wonders for a slipped disc. Would highly recommend

Fantastic experience: Very welcoming and friendly. Nice little studio. Very impressed with the overall service. Cant wait for my next appointment! Would definitely recommend to all!.. whether your highly active, have aches, pains, injuries, sit a desk all day or just want to feel fabulous try it! Cant rate it highly enough.

Fantastic experience: It was my first day, as I have been to another place before but never experienced anything like this, I felt so relaxed and comfortable, the osteopath he first explained everything he would be doing, And I really needed the movements on my back and feel really good, I will definitely go back, I feel it will help me. Thank you so much.

Fantastic experience: Took my 2 month old to see Michael ! He was amazing and very knowledgeable! As a first time mum left feeling much more calmer and more reassuring!

Fantastic experience: I came across Ashley at Precision Well-being Clinic through his excellent and instructive remedial exercises which he posts free on you tube . I was so impressed I decided to visit him for osteopathy treatment . I have been very impressed by his careful diagnosis and treatment . He has really helped the areas of my body which were tight and in pain . Combined with the exercises and suggestions to do at home I have seen a real improvement . I would highly recommend Ashley .

Fantastic experience: Ashley is in a category of his own and I have taken myself to enough physios and surgeons for three lifetimes. The way he helped me most wasn't just that he gave me better targeted exercises, it was that he explained what was going on. Once I finally understood the mechanics, I have been able to look after myself infinitely better. I'm still hypermobile but life is much better. He's brilliant, and a very nice guy.

Fantastic experience: I could not recommend Precision Wellbeing more. Michael is really knowledgeable in his field and professional!

Fantastic experience: I had been suffering with lower back pain for a while. After just a few sessions with Luke and following his advice regarding stretches I’m pain free. I would recommend this place to anybody.

Fantastic experience: Had a really bad back from weeks. Two sessions with Richard and it was better than before!

Fantastic experience: I've been seeing Ashley for Osteopathy for about 3 years, and recently his colleague Luke, as and when needed. Ashley is knowledgable and personable, and seems to remember exactly what's going on between my treatments. Luke was able to continue treatment in a truly professional manner. It's a great little practice and gym offering a wide range of healthcare solutions - a real gem in the heart of North Finchley - you are literally in safe hands!

Fantastic experience: Great physio here friendly and highly recommended

Fantastic experience: Easy online booking, excellent treatment and really helpful advice for the future maintenance of my back. Cannot recommend highly enough. Thanks!

Positive experience: Ashly was great Thorough assessment and management Very welcoming Thank you

Fantastic experience: Cannot praise this clinic more. Ashley fixed my shoulder and neck problems in a matter of a couple of months. My first session already brought such a relief I knew it was well worth starting it. Should any issues arise in the future I'll be sure to go back.

Fantastic experience: I've been to 10 or so different practitioners of various titles (sports massage therapist, osteopaths, physio's, chirporactors etc) and Ashley is the only one I have been back to multiple times, he is extremely knowledgeable and provides long term advice/solutions rather than quick fixes.

Fantastic experience: Wow. Had a lower back pain the the good part of 6months last year, it miraculously vanished and return to haunt me 6weeks ago, after two week off huffing and puffing, my partner decided to book me in with our local Osteopath which was - 'Precision Wellbeing Group.' I booked an appointment to see Michael and within the first 20minutes he could tell what the problem was just by looking at my back and asking me to twist left and right. After a quick back massage and some muscle manipulation with some acupuncture for good measure my back pain had gone! Went back a week later for a follow up, and no signs of back pain. All sorted! Many thanks!

Fantastic experience: Have been trying out various podiatrists around the N20/Edgware area since my podiatrist retired. I hadn’t, until now found someone I was totally happy with. I found Precision Wellbeing via a google search and managed to book an appointment on the same day. Everyone I interacted with whilst there was so friendly. And better still, Nathaniel did a great job with my feet. I can thoroughly recommend him.

Fantastic experience: My partner Barry had been suffering from excruciating back pain following a fall. I finally persuaded him to visit Ashley at Precision Wellbeing and it was miraculous! He's improving quickly. Ashley was very informative and knowledgable. He diagnosed the problem immediately and put Barry's mind at rest (and mine!) Thank you Ashley. Highly recommended.

Fantastic experience: After many weeks of intermittent lower back pain I can now confirm that I have now gone two months pain free after two sessions with Richard. I was a little sceptical at first but thankfully I still decided to go ahead. I would highly recommend anyone considering using Richard for treatment

Fantastic experience: I discovered Precision Wellbeing Group only couple of months ago, following a very thorough research. Due to the nature of my work and exercise regime, I began struggling with low back pain, that had no intention of going away. One fine Saturday, after my usual intensive training session at the Gym and still painful back, I found my self stroling down the booking section of Precision Wellbeing. I took it as an intuitive nudge and booked an initial 30min Sports Massage with a Therapist called Richard Bailey. It was his availability on the very next day(Sunday), with only couple of slots one could choose from, that actually convinced me to follow my intentions and book. As far as first visits go, I had no expectations whatsoever... Being a perfectionist, I've learned as much as to trust my choice and go with the flow. Richard was very welcoming on arrival. He patiently listened to me, while I described my issue and took his time assessing the cause and points of pain. I was made feel comfortable and had a full half an hour sports massage. As it was my first ever visit, I did anticipate that part of the booking will be spent assessing the issue, however, what pleasantly surprised me, was the fact that the treatment time was not cut short because of it. My entire visit took 50 min in total and I left the clinic beyond grateful. My back pain gradually subsided over the next couple of days and by the end of the week I felt great. Following my initial appointment, I booked a second one, couple of weeks later. All I can say is that I am now totally pain free and really looking forward to my upcoming visit with Precision, this coming Sunday, when I'll have the opportunity to thank Richard in person. I'd like to point out that what originally attracted me to Precision Wellbeing was the amount of free, valuable information available within it's platform. I've only met one of the clinic's members, yet my feeling is that they all do what they love and love what they do and that shines through all these amazing reviews. I can't recommend this place highly enough. Thank you Richard and thank you Precision Wellbeing Group.

Fantastic experience: After a number of unsatisfactory experiences with other places, I found Ashley and was amazed how he was able to produce successful results where others did not in the past. He was thorough in his research and worked diligently to get to the root cause of the problems and not just the symptomatic surface issues. I have used Ashley’s services for a number of years and he has never let me down once. His influence and recommendations still play a part of my daily training routine to maintain my level of fitness. I recommend Ashley to anyone and it has been a wonderful stroke of good fortune to be able to have worked with him over the years. Bri.

Fantastic experience: Thanks Michael, great job.

Fantastic experience: The single best Osteopath I have ever met. Ashley is professional, knowledgable and has made me feel so at ease during our sessions. I’ve had severe knee and back problems that have left me most days unable to climb stairs let alone walk a few minutes up the street. Just a few sessions with Ashley have given me a new lease of life and even got me walking around Rome which would have never had been happened without his work. Cannot recommend him enough, he really has been life changing!

Fantastic experience: Excellent Osteopathy treatment and stretch class. Ashley provided me with some treatment for pain I was experiencing through a disc problem and Sciatica pain. I also attended a weekly stretch class that Ashley runs which I can also recommend and was very useful for my recovery. Ashley is a skilled Osteopath but is also a nice person who genuinely cares about his work and clients

Fantastic experience: I can't speak highly enough of this place. i went there with a lower and upper back pain problem leading to a pinched nerve. It had gotten so bad that i wasn't able to work. Ashley explained exactly what the issue was and how to treat it over a few sessions. The difference was felt immediately and am now up and running again. Thank you

Fantastic experience: I cannot thank Nathaniel enough for my recent Podiatry treatment for a very large and deep verruca which I had ignored for several years in the belief that it would go on its own. After a few months treatment from Nathaniel it has completely gone, I cannot recommend him highly enough. He was completely honest with me from the off that treatment does not always work but with perseverance he pulled it off! This is the man you need if needing Podiatry treatment I will be recommending him to all my friends and family and will be back if I ever need to in the future.

Fantastic experience: Would highly recommend. Went to see Micheal with a back problem leading up to a martial arts competition that would have stopped me from competing. Micheal completely sorted me out and was in good shape for the competition. Great service

Fantastic experience: A first class service delivered, Michael was insightful, patient, and attentive. I had booked just a massage to aid my hip to allow me to run again, but the direction swayed to a consultation by Michael and I am sure glad we did. From identifying the cause and reasons as to why I was now plagued with a tight TFL, i was enlightened as to how it was caused and the remedies to aid in my recovery, After followed his advice and doing my homework over the last week I am running stronger and not ailed by my previous plight! Top service and would I recommend to anyone and have been so, to any person to whom I speak directly with.

Fantastic experience: After visiting several clinics for my low back pain with no great result, i found Richard Bailey as the one that knew exactly what he's doing. Richard has identified and located exactly where was the problem. since i started to receive treatment from Richard my lower back pain reduced dramatically, with his trigger point techniques. I would highly recommended Richard Bailey as a professional and educated sport massage with a great service.

Fantastic experience: I went to see Ashley with a bad back that left me unable to run, train or even walk properly. His help and treatments have very quickly got me back to normal and he's given me a lot of great advice and guidance for maintaining my fitness long term. I've met a few of the team there and everyone is very friendly, welcoming and professional. It's a great setup and I couldn't recommend him more highly.

Fantastic experience: Could not recommend the services offered by Precision Wellbeing Group more; I read some of the other great reviews on here before booking an appointment, and if anything the service I received exceeded my expectations. I saw Ashley for an initial consultation and then several follow-up sessions for muscle pain in my back; I was able to book my first consultation same day, and was able to book flexibly around my work schedule for all subsequent appointments. Ashley was extremely professional and highly knowledgeable, with a friendly conversational manner that helped to put me at ease at a time when I was suffering from quite a lot of pain. From the first appointment I noticed an improvement, but I was also impressed by how thorough the assessment and follow-up process was; it really helped me to feel more relaxed and reassured about my recovery. I've really noticed how both the treatment/exercises during sessions and recommendations for home have helped significantly with my back. I also feel skilled up with the exercises and recommendations I need to build my strength up and avoid re-injury moving forward. Overall, a great service that I would recommend to anyone.

Fantastic experience: Really enjoyed training with Ashley – I'd barely set foot inside a gym before but over 6-8 weeks he taught me a variety of exercises for the whole body and gave me the confidence to train on my own, as well as offering nutritional advice and helping me work to improve a knee problem. Everyone at Precision Wellbeing is friendly and welcoming too, and it's a really nice space to exercise in. Thanks!

Fantastic experience: I couldn't turn my head left or right for 2 weeks. One session with Ashley and my mobility is back, I understand where the issue originated and what postural/habit changes I need to make. I'm sending all my friends to him - thank you!

Fantastic experience: I came to Ashley because of a hip issue that had developed over time, Ashley was quick to find the cause of the problem through a quick and thorough assessment. After just one session of deep tissue massage my hip and legs were feeling a lot less restricted and the pain had been reduced substantially. I've also suffered badly from eczema my whole life, Ashley was able to give me nutritional advice and supplement recommendations which has helped alleviate my symptoms. Over the next few sessions Ashley showed me various mobility drills and foam rolling techniques to help me self manage any muscle tightness and joint restrictions. I'm now virtually pain free and my mobility has improved dramatically! Can't recommend enough! Just a word of warning, deep tissue massage is not for the faint hearted! So don't go in expecting a relaxing massage (you will feel 10x better afterwards though!)

Fantastic experience: Ashley takes time to fully understand your problem, and is spot on with his management. He's helped in the past with my foot injury (plantar fasciaitis), and more recently wirh my shoulder (rotator cuff injury). Ashley totally improved my shoulder injury, and without him, I wouldn't have revovered so quickly. I highly recommend his services... .Fiona Aimey

Fantastic experience: Highly recommend. Michael has been absolutely superb. I have been seeing him due to a prolapsed disc and sciatica down my left leg. I have seen many back specialists in the past and have to say Michael is up there with the best. Very learned, very educated and informative and a pleasure to be around

Fantastic experience: I’ve been very sceptical about any osteopath in the past but now cannot recommend Ashley enough! I’ve had severe neck ache and bad shoulder for over a year and it took only two visits and I got my full arm movement back and nech ache had completely gone! Ashley is very professional, friendly and very good at his job. Highly recommended!

Fantastic experience: Researched Ashley on youtube with his self help videos and realised he was not just out for the money he genuinely cares about his clients and getting you pain free faster, rates are very reasonable and his technique and knolledge is far the best iv had from anyone, my issues were long term lower back pain, neck shoulder and ballance from the gym and accidents and was fixed in just one thorough consultation with adjustments, friendly manner give you confidence in his work, — will be going again as “he will fix you”

Fantastic experience: THANK YOU Ashley! Got badly injured at lower back after my recent snowboarding, hardly could move. Pain was severe. 2 hours flight back home seemed like an endless nightmare while i was sitting. Found and visited Ashley next day - in just two treatments he fully recovered me. No pain at all. Ready for my next ride :-)

Fantastic experience: I saw Ashely when I could barely to walk to him. His calm, caring and reassuring approach immediately put me at ease. He is extremely professional and I felt very safe and secure with his knowledge and expertise. Ashley pinpointed straight away what was wrong with me and without hesitation sent me for an mri scan within the first treatment session. His treatment after my diagnosis was excellent and through and I would highly recommend him to anyone.

Fantastic experience: I went to see Ashley because I was suffering with lower back pain. Ashley is very personable, patient and professional. He took time to gather all the relevant information about my back problems and medical history . After just one visit the lower back was 70% better and after a follow up visit the improvement was 100%. On my second follow up visit I asked him to look at a painful upper right arm and shoulder. After massage and some follow up exercises my shoulder has loosened up and the pain has more or less gone. The improvement is such that I am definitely going to continue with the exercises and will visit Ashley from time to time to maintain my back and shoulder health.

Fantastic experience: Ashley was fantastic! Highly recommended. Over the course of three sessions he completely resolved my back issues. As well as very skilled osteopathic treatment and massage, he also gave me specific exercises and stretches to do at home to help prevent the problems reoccurring, and I learnt a lot about my body in the process! He will definitely be my first call in future for any other back problems.

Fantastic experience: Superb! Ashley is a skilled practitioner, helpful, informative and puts you at ease straight away. Professional & highly recommended.

Fantastic experience: Ash is fantastic! I had a slightly scary consultation with a chiropractor and came to Ash for a second opinion. He took the time to examine me properly, as well as talking me through everything. He was really reassuring, professional and friendly. Would recommend!

Fantastic experience: Cannot recommend Ashley enough! I've been having upper back and shoulder pain for months, and instead of just tackling the symptoms like others, Ashley worked to find the root cause and not only administer physical therapy to help, but also gave me some exercises and stretches to use at home to better strengthen and balance my shoulders. I travel a lot for work and Ashley has been very flexible with his schedule and always answers any questions I have via email

Fantastic experience: Ashley is wonderful! He sort out my back pain that i had for years. He explained what i've done wrong all this time and niw i do feel much better.

Fantastic experience: Walked in stiff and in pain, walked out pretty much pain free. Ashley seems to really know his stuff and easily understood my sports injury. Did a full and careful assessment before working into the muscles and getting things moving again. Also offered great advice to help in the future. First class osteopathy treatment in North Finchley and reasonable prices. Highly recommended.

Fantastic experience: I recently had my first appointment with Ashley and was really impressed with the experience. Ashley put me right at ease and was very thorough in both diagnosing and treating me. He explained in detail why I was in pain and gave me a real understanding of what was going on with my body. The day after the treatment my back was not causing me as much discomfort as before and my neck was feeling less tight. I’ll definitely be going back for further treatment.

Fantastic experience: Ashley is great. Made me feel very relaxed and he is very easy to talk to. I feel much better after visiting and will go back to him with any future problems without hesitation.

Fantastic experience: Highly recommended professional service - Ash is the go-to person for injury treatment.

Fantastic experience: Yuliyana is a fantastic personal trainer. She is helping me gain strength and change my body with varied sessions and nutritional guidance. Yuliyana works me harder than I would ever work by myself but she is also fair. We laugh a lot and I always look forward to my sessions.

Fantastic experience: I have finally decided , I must write and thank Ashley. Having suffered with RSI in the wrist and chronic repetitive pain that is debilitating at times and psychologically waring for the past 11 years I called around in March, desperate, anxious and in pain. After a small call Ashley offered what he a sports massage. Straight after a felt the effect of the treatment and then a cessation of the pain. I have been visiting off and on for the past 3 months at times of pain and managed to complete my dissertation and a full-time placement and needed no extenuations or time off. Thank you Ashley and Precision Wellbeing. Ps: I additionally met Monica who also did some magic!

Fantastic experience: I have complete confidence here. Having visited Ashley for a number of years now with different problems (always leaving it too late!) his ability to diagnose, treat, fix and also explain in an understandable manner means I wouldn't hesitate in recommending him and his team to anyone. Places and people like this are hard to find, I'm just glad I did.

Fantastic experience: Yuliyana is superb petsonal trainer. She's motivating and makes sure that you see results fast and injury free. Lots of fun too and she is very knowledgeable. Would happily come back again.

Fantastic experience: Yuliyana is a miracle worker. As my personal trainer she has transformed my body and my sense of well being. She is firm and very encouraging and made me feel I could achieve my goals.I like the way she quickly ascertains how your body is feeling on a particular day and without you even realising she is pushing you.She prepares thoroughly for each session ensuring that she offers variety. All of this and more as she is such a lovely warm human being. Jacqui Hyffes

Fantastic experience: Yuliyana is an effective and motivational trainer, and I always leave having done more than I thought I possibly could. She is sensitive to my individual weaknesses and creates exercises which are challenging but achievable and really address my concerns and goals. Her attention to correct form means I feel very safe in her hands, and we also have a bit of a laugh. I usually leave exhausted but with a smile on my face!

Fantastic experience: I have gone to see Ashley as a result of frequent tension/stress headaches that I was having and was very very happy with the outcome of my sessions. He was able to identify the cause of this issue by targetting the tense muscles directly and I walked away with a resolution to my headaches - which lasts, rather than provide a temporary relief. I would very much recommend Ashley's services.

Fantastic experience: I'd recommend Ashley unreservedly. Flexible about the appointment time. Professional (and just a very nice person) during it. Concerned enough to check up afterwards and ask whether it had made a difference.

Positive experience: I found Ashley to be very supportive and professional. He was clearly committed to improving the movement and flexibility in my shoulder. I appreciated his willingness to come in early for my preferred appointments.

Fantastic experience: I was treated once by Ashley for injury caused from training. He had a professional approach, asked several questions, examined movements in various parts of the body, established the probable cause of the injury and advised my trainer and me accordingly. I have been able to avoid that and similar injuries ever since and have no hesitation in recommending him to all with similar problems.

Fantastic experience: Over the years, I have been to a number of osteopaths and physiotherapists with rugby and other sports related injuries. I can thoroughly recommend Ashley for his technical knowledge and also his ability to look at the bigger picture when treating a patient.

Fantastic experience: I have been treated by Ashley Ridout many times with great success. He has helped me get out of pain and back to training many times. Highly recommended!

Fantastic experience: Damien Ashley (Pettit) Professional Actor and Training Fight Choreographer/ Performer I have been a patient of Ashley's now for the past 2 years, whilst this may sound like a long time to see a specialist in Osteopathy I brought with me a long history of injuries derived from Martial Arts training that had seen many journeys, from the NHS to other private specialists over a period of 9 years. From the start I new that Ashley was the right choice, having had two operations (one for my shoulder and one for my hip from cartilage tears, muscle ruptures and numerous dislocations) as well as suffering from countless imbalance issues and muscle/ joint instabilities in my other shoulder, hip and lower back I was beginning to feel disheartened at the idea of ever getting back to Martial Arts; having spent the most part of the last 9 years in hospital more than in training with surgeons telling me I may never kick or throw a left hook again and that more surgery was my only option, Ashley was a much needed breath of fresh air. Not one to sit down and give up I sort out Ashley's advice and have not looked back since. From his initial assessment he wanted to look at my entire history to see the correlations, not just the 'current problems' as most practitioners tend to focus on. Whilst the initial testing phases were more cumbersome than expected Ashley has never painted a negative picture on my possibilities for the future and has always been both a positive aid and hard working practitioner. Unlike most other practitioners that I had seen ( be it chiropractor, chinese medicine, M.A.T specialists, Orthopedic surgeons to other Osteopaths) who choose to stay with one principal or methodology, Ashley will always bring different treatment systems to the table, at times I admit the "guinea pig' phrase has been passed around in sessions but always in striving for an answer to fixing the problem. Ashley has since changed my diet ( joint supplements, water intake, Bone Broths, clean eating..no cake....:( ) as well as using methods of joint manipulation, trigger point therapy, dry needling, Acupuncture, Kinesio sports taping and release work to get my body where it needs to be and, although I am not kicking YET, I have started learning to box and am beginning to see improvement in my hips, I feel fitter than I ever have (did I forget to mention he's also a fully qualified Personal Trainer??) and I am looking forward to becoming a student once more in the Arts I love so much, knowing that whilst I cannot kick yet- Ashley is putting me on the path to do so in the future. If you are suffering from any kind of injury, have dietary issues or need that more in depth personal training approach to getting through rehabilitation and back to your daily life or sport, you would be hard pushed to find a more professional and dedicated therapist - I have recommended family, friends, colleagues and clients to him who have nothing but positive feedback and go on to recommend friends of their own - don't hesitate, give him a call.